Heaven, Hell and the Afterlife

Nietzsche once said, through his character Zarathustra:
“When (man) invented hell . . . lo, hell was his heaven on earth; he could put up with suffering now, by contemplating the eternal punishment of his oppressors in the other world.”

If that definition is too Old Testament for you, would you agree with these two definitions? The first one is by the group, Talking Heads:
“Heaven is a place where nothing ever happens.”
Nick Carr took that definition to its logical conclusion and wondered:
“If we further assume that hell is the opposite of heaven, then the distinguishing characteristic of hell is unrelenting eventfulness, the constant, unceasing arrival of the new. Hell is a place where something always happens.”
I am guessing the Buddha would have added a very important point to Carr’s definition: “That’s hell only if you choose to react to every such occurrence.”

What would you consider this description of one version of the afterlife by David Eagleman in Sum: Forty Tales from the Afterlives:
“In the afterlife you relive all your experiences, but this time with the events reshuffled into a new order: all the moments that share a quality are grouped together. You spend two months driving the street in front of your house, seven months having sex. You sleep for thirty years without opening your eyes. For five months straight you flip through magazines while sitting on a toilet.You take all your pain at once, all twenty-seven intense hours of it. …You spend six days clipping your nails…Eighteen months waiting in line. Two years of boredom: staring out a bus window, sitting in an airport terminal.”
If that is how the afterlife is, would you then conclude:
“In this part of the afterlife, you imagine something analogous to your Earthly life, and the thought is blissful: a life where episodes are split into tiny swallowable pieces, where moments do not endure, where one experiences the joy of jumping from one event to the next like a child hopping from spot to spot on the burning sand.”

Did that last part, the conclusion that Earthly life is bliss, hit you the same way Eugene Wei felt:
“I was so struck by this passage, this idea that the only thing that made our lives tolerable was the jumbling of all these events into a shuffled sequence that achieved some optimal variety, serendipity, and novelty.”
Or do you feel that all of the above is proof of what John Milton once said:
“The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven.”
Milton phrased it in a catchy way, but the Buddha said the same thing long before. And even devised techniques to handle the problem. Hail Buddha!

Comments

  1. As usual your blog has a well picked up and arranged flow of quotations. What is more, you are treating the Eastern religions acknowledging their basic attitude difference from the Semitic religions. At the same time you are presenting bondage-free (not Christian thoughts for example) concepts emerging from the Western mind. Good to read.

    While more or less all religions discuss afterlife, the summing up as you say rightly, seems better done the Buddha way. The Buddha as well as some branches of Hinduism are not averse to the discussions of "before" and "after" is so far as it it true that 'every karma (taken as a cause) will produce a karmic effect'. After stating in no uncertain terms that a "next life" is bound to be there if there is a karma residue waiting to bear fruit (i.e. karma effect or result), the better of the Indic religions make it clear that the point is hardly that - that we had a life before, and before, and before... and we will have a life after, and after, and after...

    Why bother about any after life? Why bother about even far, for that matter near, future in this life? Learn to develop sustaining nature of your mind - a mind that is balanced and undisturbed, free of undue attachment and aversion - in effect a peaceful mind, presto "The mind in its own place and in itself would refuse to produce either heaven or hell". As you concluded that kind of thing about the Buddha in your blog, I take it that there is this Buddha assurance for us - the freedom from 'dukkha' is very much possible here and now, where 'dukkha' can be taken as our ability for living in suffering! That is what I like about the Buddha - he is for my salvation not in future but right at this moment!

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